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Lead Generation

The word 'lead' tells you everything. They're humans with ignored struggles, not leads in a funnel. A sales funnel is not a business. Neither is an offer. Or an ad campaign. Selling stuff to people is hard. It takes time. It's meant to be hard.

What most people mean

Get people into the funnel. Forms, downloads, webinars, free trials. Turn strangers into leads. Turn leads into MQLs. Turn MQLs into SQLs. Turn SQLs into closed-won. Measure everything. Optimise the conversion rates.

Where the definition breaks

The word “lead” dehumanises. A lead is a row in a spreadsheet. A number in a pipeline report. Something to be “nurtured” (as if they’re houseplants) and “qualified” (as if they’re applying for a job).

But on the other end of that form fill is a human with ignored struggles, trying to get a job done, comparing alternatives, dealing with irrational emotions, and reacting to specific trigger events. Reducing them to a lead status strips away everything that makes your marketing effective.

The funnel framing is worse. Wanna get a constant flow of customers? All you need is one offer people can’t refuse, one hyper-optimised funnel, and one ad using this groundbreaking approach! That’s all you need! It’s that easy! More exclamation points!!!

F*ck that.

If it were that easy, everyone would do it. One client’s client was making $40,000 a month solely from Facebook Ads. The ads stopped working after a couple of months. Revenue went to zero overnight. No other option but to shut down. Why? No foundations. No unique positioning, no distinctive brand, no continuous reach. Just an offer sitting on top of a house of cards.

Passive income doesn’t exist. A funnel is not a business. Marketing doesn’t change. And there are no secrets.

How we define it at STFO

We don’t optimise for “leads.” We build systems that make the right people show up when they’re ready.

The STFO approach to what lead generation tries to do:

  • Positioning (Stage 2) ensures you have a compelling reason for the right people to choose you. Not a clever form. A real reason.
  • Distinctive brand (Stage 3) ensures they remember you when the trigger hits. Not because you retargeted them. Because your brand stuck.
  • Continuous reach (Stage 4) ensures you’re visible before, during, and after the buying moment. Triggers tell you when. Channels tell you where. Offers tell you what.

The result: people come to you pre-sold. Not because you nurtured them through a 7-email drip sequence. Because they’ve been seeing you, reading you, and trusting you for months or years before the trigger hit.

That’s what “generating leads” should mean. But the industry turned it into a form-fill optimisation game.

What it is NOT

  • Not a game of form fills and MQL counts
  • Not the same as building a business (funnels collapse when ads stop working)
  • Not about “nurturing” (people aren’t houseplants)
  • Not the starting point (positioning and brand come first)
  • Not easy (selling stuff to people is hard, and it’s meant to be)

"A sales funnel is not a business. Neither is an offer. Or an ad campaign. Selling stuff to people is hard. It takes time. It's meant to be hard."

Louis Grenier, Stand The F*ck Out

From Chapter 14 of Stand The F*ck Out (2024) by Louis Grenier.

The Stand The F*ck Out framework, introduced by Louis Grenier in 2024, consists of four stages: insight foraging, unique positioning, distinctive brand, and continuous reach.

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